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Difficulty: Easy Saturday, July 23, 2016

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CHAT LOG for Saturday, July 23, 2016

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Unlike, it's like Shakespeare, a great work of fiction that has been interpreted thousands of different ways over the centuries by those seeking to make a point. Read bits of both and both have lots of merit and lots that has no relevance today or rather is very wrong win todays modern world. If we are all honest about it, we should all simplify it as we do with everything else - just be kind, considerate, tolerant and empathetic.
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back up to date
4:21 am

I urge caution. It may be the wrong Book. Choose the wrong one and the hot place awaits you.
5:39 am

Revelations 22:18-19 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
5:41 am

How many versions are there of the Bible besides King James?
6:18 am

tuco, I don't go for a vengeful god. My view of faith is that the higher power is like a great aquifer that can feed many wells. We have many different religions - wells - but a their central core, all carry the same message - as Phil said - "just be kind, considerate, tolerant and empathetic."
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9:21 am

Tuco, lots of translations. If you count all the different languages thousands. If you just count English dozens.

The word version is misleading. Most versions are translations. Most differences are either uncertainty in translating a particular word, or different opinions on textual criticism (the study of which manuscript family is more accurate).

There are over 20,000 manuscripts (old hand written copies in the original languages, Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic) of the Bible or parts of the Bible. These manuscripts do not agree on every word or even in a few places whole paragraphs are added or deleted. But, over all, with 20,000 manuscripts the agreement is remarkable, and the disagreements are trivial.
9:36 am

Diane your view of God is incomplete. You are believing the parts of the Bible you like and rejecting the parts you do not like. But that is to be expected from someone who does not believe the Bible is God's Word. Here is a concise summary of who God is:

And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.
[6] And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,
[7] Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
9:38 am

That was from Exodus 34:5-7

Just a thought, what would be the point of law and justice if law breakers never were punished?
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The problem I have is that the Bible is supposed to be the Word of God. Yet it was written by Man. It is no different than the Quran, Breakfast of Champions, Atlas Shrugged, or My Pet Goat. You get out if it what you read into it.
11:00 am

Or told to read into it.
11:02 am

Many people believe that the Eagles in The Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit symbolized the U.S. coming to the aid of Europe in both World Wars. However the author denies this. Unfortunately we do the "Author" of Divine Texts has yet to correct or verify the ideas and ideals attributed to "His" word.
11:03 am

remove we do from below.
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drwho: You are correct that many people have incomplete views of the Bible. As a single example, consider God's command FOR abortion in Numbers 5. I'm not saying that everyone must change their views, just that there is more than one part upon which folks can focus and there are apparent contradictions. The contradictions start with the two tales of the creation of humans, found in Genesis 1 and then in Genesis 2, and both tales cannot be correct. Parable? Sure. And I would rather not return to a time when "heretics" were put to death (found in Numbers 25 and several chapters of Deuteronomy and as penalties for numerous commandments in Leviticus). Yes, read the Bible ... really read it. And then each of us can choose what to believe. Telling someone that their view of the Bible is incomplete makes a gross assumption that they have not studied and you could easily be wrong. Enjoy your religion and I will enjoy mine. Thank you.
11:06 am

So if you want to believe that the Bible or any other Holy Text are a manual to live your life by, that's fine with me. Lot's of intrigue, sex, corruption, murder, rape, incest. I think I will stick with "My Father's Dragon". Or "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo".
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When the Bible was written most people were only exposed to it in places of worship. It was held as an icon and the holy men were revered for being able to read and relate to them "The Word" Even after Gutenberg this didn't change much since the Bible was printed in Latin. The early translations into English didn't happen until Tynsdale 75 years after Gutenberg. Plus I still remember my early days in the R.C. Church where the Mass was only held in Latin. It was 4 days after my 9th birthday when Mass was held in English.
11:21 am

There is no right way.
11:22 am

Bible = Word of God, Host = Body of Christ, Wine = Blood of Christ. Consume the Lord and be as He. Transubstantiation. There'll be pie in the sky when you die.
11:24 am

It's okay if you live in squalor and can't provide for your family. Blow yourself up and you will have everlasting life in Paradise. As a bonus you get a bunch of virgins. I wonder if they clarified that the virgins would be of legal age and not the same sex???
11:25 am

Lead a good life and you will come back as a slug, or maybe a Peacock or a Brahman Bull.
11:27 am

The funny thing is the people who are the biggest proponents are usually the biggest violators of their religions laws and prohibitions. I guess they know something we don't. Like they aren't going to be punished in the afterlife for abusing children, or sending others to blow up innocent people.
12:26 pm

Love Sudoku!
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Penguin, Numbers 5 absolutely does NOT prescribe abortion. Not even close. Somebody has lied to you. Is there any abortionist anywhere in the world who administers dusty water as a sort of RU486, to cause abortion. It absolutely wouldn't work. Not in the slightest. The ceremony in Numbers 5 was done to absolve the innocent woman and to enjoin the guilty woman to tell the truth, something Planned Parenthood never does.
6:51 pm

Really EZPZ. After a while I had a great abundance of only single open cells in several constituencies at once. 9.
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BTW, you may read Numbers 5 in its entirety from the source here, giving ample demonstration of the lies of Planned Parenthood and the mindset of the liberal, thinking that a lie is every bit as valid as the truth. Numbers 5:\ns_122001
8:10 pm

I should hope that no Sudoku player would fall for the belief that a lie is as good as the truth.